Random Commentary: Jesus of Nazareth, Bush’s War, Christianity and Hitler’s Table-Talk

AHRS

 

The Development of Jesus

 

I found this information online: There was never any single individual who was the Jesus portrayed in the New Testament. The mythical Jesus is constructed of many elements from the religions of the Roman Empire. Chief among these are: 1) Joshua ben Pandera, the second Messiah of the Zealot movement. The Gospel of Mark was likely built around his life story. 2) an itinerant Essene teacher who was killed during an All Fools’ Day celebration in Alexandria about 28 A.D. and 3) the sacrificial hero of Middle-Eastern mythology.

 

Joshua

 

He was the son of the Roman centurion, Pandera, and a Jewish woman, whose name very likely was not Mary. Pandera was later transferred to Germany where he died and a statue was erected to his memory.

 

Joshua likely lived in Gamala, in what is now Jordan. This was a hotbed of Zealot activity and was out of the jurisdiction of King Herod, who was the chief target of their hostility. He became their second Messiah after the death of Judas Iscariot. His name carried a lot of weight with the Jewish people because Yeheshuah was the name given to the Son of Man in The Book of Enoch, and Joshua was also the name of the Old Testament warrior-prophet who led the Children of Israel into their own nation. It is likely that only a few of the quotations attributed to Jesus are those of Joshua. The rest come from other sources.

 

Joshua was either executed for treason by King Herod about the year 30 A.D. or else committed suicide along with thousands of other Zealot patriots at Masada in 70 A.D. 

 

I found this to be interesting material on the life of Jesus of Nazareth. I do not remember from where I retrieved this information, but I cannot help but notice how similar it is to that which has been written by the Rabbis in the sections on Jesus in the Talmud.

 

I also found this information online, with commentary, a couple years ago. I have been able to confirm what this piece proposes. I finally located these quotes verbatim in Albert Speer’s Inside the Third Reich, so, his is the book from where this information came.

 

“Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of Arabs. When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France into Central Europe during the eighth century, his visitors had told him, they had been driven back at the Battle of Tours. Had the Arabs won this battle, the world would be Mohammedan today. For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. The Germanic peoples would have become heirs to that religion. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.

 

Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking, 'You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness....”

 

“This does not, of course, really amount to any more than idle speculations on Hitler's part. However, they do show that Hitler saw in Islam something which he found more to his liking than what he saw in Christianity. He was attracted by the penchant for violence that is the most outward manifestation of Islamic theology, and as seen in the link above, there was also the common connection of Jew-hatred which the Nazi party had with Muslim leaders in the Arab world at that time. Indeed, while Nazi anti-Semitism is quite well known, one point which has not been remarked upon as often is that the Nazi hatred of Christianity also stemmed from anti-Semitic roots, due to the belief on the part of Hitler than Christianity (and its "child" Bolshevism) was the result of a deliberate conspiracy on the part of the Jews” [this is a completely baseless statement, as Hitler and the National Socialists did not hate Christianity; it is also a very weak argument]:

 

“National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.” This quote is more than likely genuine, as Hitler believed that Christ’s teachings had been completely skewed by the Jews and their collaborators to pave the way for “proto-Bolshevism”. However, the first sentence has been attributed to Martin Bormann, as opposed to Hitler, because nowhere else does Hitler make such anti-Christian statements. Henry Ashby Turner, Jr. and Steigmann-Gall have both rejected this statement as attributable to Hitler.

 

Hitler likewise iterated this belief later in that same year [8 June 2006: Verified all of the following to be verbatim from Hitler’s Table-Talk: 1941-1944]:

 

“Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St. Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea.”

 

I have to call into question Hitler’s alleged usage of the term “extermination” here, as I would need to know the exact term he used in German before I would accept this statement as truly accurate. So many false translations and outright lies proliferate when it comes to Hitler’s words, that one must be very careful when using alleged ‘verbatim’ quotes. I have to doubt that this is an honest translation, merely due to the fact that Hitler more than likely would not have claimed that he was secretly exterminating Jews during a stenographically recorded conversation in the presence of [at least] the stenographer and Martin Bormann. Moreover, Bormann does not mention “extermination” in any of his private letters (see The Bormann Letters). Indeed, he does not even allude to such a thing. And do not forget that Hitler knew about the rumors of extermination of Jews, and brushed it off as nothing more than rumors, without much ado (see Bormann’s Table-Talk, p. 87).

 

I suppose it might also be pertinent to say that Hitler’s phraseology equates to the phraseology of President Ahmadinejad, as he claimed that he wanted to “wipe Israel off the map”. First of all, is this an exact and accurate translation from Farsi? Secondly, was it taken out of context? Lastly, did he mean this in a literal sense… or was he referring to the dissolution of the illegitimate state of Israel? [8 June 2006: Article found indicating that Neo-Cons had indeed mistranslated President Ahmad’s words. Read about it…].

 

Furthermore, even N. Khruschev’s “threatening” quote was taken out of context during the Cold War to heighten tensions between the two inane Superpowers of the day: the US and USSR. He said, “Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.” It was taken out of context, and it was misrepresented simply as though he had said, “We will bury you,” insinuating imminent nuclear danger. What of Hitler’s lexicon may also have been taken out of context, mistranslated, misunderstood, and/or misrepresented? [Source for N. Khruschev’s quote and all of this information about Ahmadinejad’s lexicon taken from: J. Steele. “If Iran is ready to talk, the US must do so unconditionally.” The Guardian Unlimited (online edition), Friday, 2 June 2006. Accessed 7 June 2006.]

 

Lesson: the victors write history, hence, revisionism is always acceptable and necessary.

 

One can easily see that such statements are not so easy to decipher when one does not know the mood, context, or conditions upon which the words were uttered. Hitler may have simply been worked up by his own rhetoric, as he usually became quite excitable when he engaged in religious monologues of this sort. Oftentimes, he would say that he wanted to “destroy Christianity,” but as both history and Hitler’s record have shown, he never even attempted such a thing.

 

It is more likely that he was engaged in a heated monologue, and said it out of his frustration, just as he had said that he would “destroy Christianity” [due to the fractiousness and divisiveness of the many churches in the Reich and their opposition to his government]. Hitler allegedly mentioned exterminating Jews in at least one of his speeches as well, and I believe he even states something similar in Mein Kampf. It was not indicative of literal extermination, though the Jews would have everyone believe that Hitler openly encouraged exterminating the Jews in the Reich. Do you not think that his people and many multinational supporters unto the end of the war might have had qualms with this open advocacy of exterminating the Jewish people?

 

Misconstruing Terminology: “Final Solution”

 

“[T]he great triumvirate of the Union Civil War effort [Grant, Sherman and Sheridan] formulated and enacted military Indian policy until reaching, by The 1880s, what Sherman sometimes referred to as “the final solution of the Indian problem,” which he defined as killing hostile Indians and segregating their pauperized survivors in remote places . . . . These men applied their shared ruthlessness, born of their Civil War experiences, against a people all three despised, in the name of Civilization and Progress.”

 

As evidenced by this quote by Thomas DiLorenzo, the phrase “final solution” was regularly used by people other than Hitler and the Nazi-Sozis. Hitler had also addressed the “final solution to the Church Question.” Does this mean that he was advocating the extermination of the Churches and priests? Of course not. This is a particularly German-derived phrase that simply denotes the existence of a particular issue or problem. I could just as easily say, “Americans must address the final solution to the illegal immigration problem.” It is no different; furthermore, it certainly does not mean—or even refer to—extermination via mass murder. The Jews have read far too much into this common two-word phrase, of the German language, in order to perpetuate their “Holocaust” story—which they openly and admittedly use as a politicized, ideological weapon against the free world.

 

Hitler as Popular Leader

 

The German people did not live under terror and fear as so many historians would have us believe, but rather, they loved their leader and they lived at least as freely and happily and carefree as Americans do today. One need only read Look to Germany, Into the Darkness, I Knew Hitler, The Hitler I Knew, Epic: The Story of the Waffen-SS, The Missing Years, or Hitler: Born at Versailles to verify this point. Hitler’s people loved him for good reason. He was not a totalitarian murderer who terrorized people with the Gestapo. These lies are the concocted propaganda of Jews, who by the way, concocted the same virulent lies against Saddam Hussein, and are concocting the same vicious lies about Iran. When will we ever learn? Hitler wanted the ‘pest’ eradicated from Germany for the very same reasons we in America are experiencing under the ‘Jewish Lobby’ today. The Jews who come into power do not know when to stop, and the vehement, war-mongering tirade given by William Kristol [Jew] against journalist John Pilger in a recent interview is just one example of how powerful Jews react when their murderous and destructive policies and actions come under careful and honest scrutiny.

 

Indeed, Mr. Feith went so far as to demand that the camera stop recording and the audio be shut off when Mr. Pilger questioned him about the America-Iraq biological weapons connection among other things. This report is riveting and it may well bring you to tears. The devastation and peril that America has wrought upon the Middle East, viciously pushed through by the Israel Lobby without any considerations for what the American people, as a body politic, may have wanted, has ushered in the Soviet-style Bolshevization of America. We are becoming what the USSR of yesteryear had become… nothing more than a tool of Jewish power against the free world. The predominantly Jewish-led Soviet Union committed these same types of horrific wars and crimes against humanity. If we are to take Hitler at his word, the Jews are almost solely responsible for both capitalism and Communism… two of the most materialistic, hate-mongering ideologies that exist in our world today.  I hate to have to be the one who says it, but why should only certain countries be able to reap the fruits of the world’s labor? Cannot we afford to give a little more to nations in need, as opposed to wreaking havoc and tyranny upon their already troubled nations?

 

So many people have suffered and died for what I believe to be no legitimate reason at all. I took a class called The Vietnam War awhile back. I read four books on the matter, but for the life of myself, could not find one legitimate reason for that war. Instead of coming to an understanding of the war, what I learned and extracted from the class actually raised more questions than it answered. Imagine if it was you and your little kids who had their flesh burned off your bodies. Imagine if it was America who had been doused in napalm and Agent Orange. Imagine if it were our little American children who had had their tiny little legs and arms blown off by foreign invaders. Imagine if it was your mother who had no face after the atomic bomb fell on your city here at home. Imagine if it was your brother who had been gassed by White Phosphorous (used by Americans in the Iraq Mass Murder Debacle a.k.a. Iraq War as reported in the mainstream news).

 

Everything that America has accused Hitler of wanting to do, it has actually done… and then some. I don’t even know what more to say, because Americans do not even have the wherewithal to get out into the streets and take action. Here we complacently sit dwelling in apathy in this individualistic nation of selfishness. I am ashamed of my country. I wish we could go back to Colonial America and start over again. Hitler predicted that this country would collapse… his prophetic words ring all too clear upon the ears of those who wish to hear.

 

Hitler:  … “I don’t see much of a future for the Americans. In my view, it’s a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, [much more applicable today] and the problem of social inequalities [also much worse today]. Those were what caused the downfall of Rome, and yet Rome was a solid edifice that stood for something. Moreover, the Romans were inspired by great ideas. Nothing of the sort in England today [really in a state of decay now]. As for the Americans, that kind of thing is non-existent. That’s why, in spite of everything, I like an Englishman a thousand times better than an American. … But my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance. I feel myself more akin to any European country, no matter which [sounds very similar to how over half the world feels about America today, doesn’t it?] Everything about the behavior of American society reveals that it’s half-Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together—a State where 80 percent of the revenue is drained away from the public purse [currently, it is well beyond 100 percent with our multi-trillion dollar budget deficit]—a country where everything is built on the dollar” (Hitler’s Table-Talk, p. 188)?

 

 

 

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